Welcome, Second Saturn Return Members!

Were you born sometime between 1951 and 1953, while Saturn was intermittently within an 8° range of a conjunction to Neptune? (For most of you, both Saturn and Neptune are in the sign Libra, but for some Saturn is in Scorpio, though still within 8° of Neptune in Libra.)

The Difference between the First and Second Saturn Return

(c)10-29-2011 by Donna Cunningham, MSW

In response to a reader’s question, here’s how I would explain the three Saturn returns – each is the culmination of a stage of maturation, focused in the areas of life represented by the house Saturn is placed in natally and by natal Saturn’s aspects. Saturn represents important roles we play, like parent, spouse, boss, or teacher, and so the return may focus on adjusting to those roles. It is also a mini life review, an interval in which we ask ourselves and are asked by our surroundings,” how am I doing?”

Second time around. How was it different this time?

Every one of us that shares the experience of their Saturn return here helps the rest of us, as we peer into each other’s dark mirrors to find ourselves.  While I find the people with approximately the same  signs in houses more fascinating, I can learn something from most of you as you post about your experiences.

I have Saturn in the 6th house, the house of service, cats (small pets)  and health. 30 odd years ago, I found myself feeling totally overwhelmed, with a full time job, an out of control husband, and two little tiny kids.  I was the full time parent, and I had a menial job too that required me 40 hours a week.

My health was a mess, I had not done anything more physical than chase those kids around for 3 or 4 years,  so my resistance was low and I was always tired. It took me years to climb out of that hole.  I was almost 50 when Saturn was trining my native Saturn  when I realized that if I didn’t change my ways I would be in serious trouble soon.   I was going to a chiropractor at the time, and he would adjust me and I would go home and fall out of adjustment! He could put my bones back, but my muscles were too weak to hold stuff where it belonged. I knew I had to do something different.

So I pursued an exercise program in fits and starts and gradually built a new healthy body and an exercise ethic that seems to be sticking with me.

An old astrologer once told me that the cosmos continues to give you opportunities to change throughout your life. I think I got with the program just in time.

So when Saturn return came along again, here I was with about 16 pounds of muscle mass that I didn’t have before, an understanding of posture, balance, and lots of other details about health that I was missing before; and I still had issues. I HAVE issues. But I know the ropes now. I know what to do.

This Saturn return I was kind of excited because I also was having Jupiter return. In the past, my Jupiter returns have been a lot of fun, but this one sure wasn’t.  Saturn hosed the whole thing down with cold water.  So it hasn’t really been fun.

My out of control husband has turned into my dearest friend, but  for this Saturn return, we discovered that he has something else out of control, cancer. And it’s scary.  Along with me he has been pursuing health by diet and exercise and life style, but of course, life’s not fair, we are learning, it’s not always enough to do everything right, but it helps.

Since it’s not over yet, I will not say anything else, but do tell me how yours is different than the last time. And be sure to tell us where your Saturn is in your chart so we know what page you’re on.

A 2nd Saturn Return back to the 9th house–a relationship and beliefs journey

©8-2011 by Ineke

 Note: Second Saturn Return members are invited to share and post their Saturn return stories so we can all learn  from each other. Ineke has studied astrology for a long time, but that’s not a requirement for posting here.

 My first Saturn Return also coincided with Transiting Neptune conj my Natal Sun/Mercury. Much later I did an astrological assignment on the first return and had writings and diaries to sort thru what happened. Saturn came close to my Saturn at the beginning of that year and only one pass in the October. The Saturn Return chart (13 Oct 1981) has Saturn in the 9^th conjunct Sun in 9^th conj Jupiter on MC and Pluto in 10^th plus opposition Moon in Aries in the 3^rd.  

Where is YOUR Second Saturn Return?

(c)8-2011 by CJ Wright

So where is your natal  Saturn? Mine is in the 6th house, house of pets, health and service.   I’d love to know where yours is. Below are some very brief descriptions of Saturn in the houses, added just to whet your interests.

Saturn return, transit beyond Saturn in the 6th house

(c)8-2011 by MimiTabby

As Transiting Saturn danced back and forth over my natal Saturn, I felt downtrodden, tired, old.  I knew that if I could just hold out to the end of July, I would finally be free of that heavy stone on my shoulders. And I could really feel it, within days, I  had more energy, my frozen shoulder is unfreezing, but Saturn is STILL in my 6th house, the house of health, small animals, and service.

Flower Essence Support for the Neptune-Saturn Group

(c)5-2011 by Donna Cunningham, MSW

Note: this article, which originally appeared on Skywriter is part of a series designed to help readers born between 1951-53 with Saturn conjunct Neptune work through their second Saturn return.  We’ll be learning about a variety of healing tools, but essences are an excellent catalyst to growth. 

The 6th house Saturn Return – an artist who served for 32 years

(c)5-2011 by MimiTabby

This is the first of a series of autobiographical posts about those of us experiencing their second Saturn return.   My name is Mimi.

Saturn in the 6th house points to service, small animals and health issues.  During my first Saturn return, I had terrible problems with my cats, lost jobs, learned a work ethic and had a very small health crisis. I also managed to work full time with a husband who was slowly getting his act together (he managed to be unemployed for the births of both of our kids), and have a tot and a baby. I was completely miserable.